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Journal Entry: Mon Jun 3, 2013, 4:45 PM
Well.

I've had this sitting on my mind for quite some time now, just.  Wanted to wait for an appropriate time to post this.
I'm not going to single anyone out and I'm not going to outright condemn anyone for anything.  I would rather just state a few things regarding comments consisting of very little more than "This reminds me of..."

I know the majority of these comments aren't meant to be offensive or even insulting; they're just benign observations based on a very human trait to want to combine things of a similar nature together. We're reminded of things we've seen before on a regular basis and it's part of the same reason why we tend to find human faces in inanimate objects and obscure shapes; it's completely natural and we all do it to a certain extent.


That being said however, imagine spending countless hours working on a piece and pouring your blood, sweat, and tears into it. It's your brainchild; your baby and a piece of yourself and your imagination that you're essentially sharing with others. Imagine being proud of yourself and your accomplishment and just how hard you worked on it.


Now imagine someone commenting with "This reminds me of ____." There's no other content, not even a simple compliment. Just that someone thinks that your hard work resembles something you may not have even seen or heard of before and nothing more.

When you tell an artist this, you're essentially telling them that you think their work is unoriginal and very little else. It's not supportive and it's certainly not a compliment to hear from anyone.  And not only is it not a compliment, but it also makes the artist want to withdraw and feel less inclined to share their work, because. Who really wants to work hard just to have someone essentially call their honest effort a knock-off of something else that already exists? Especially if it's something so absolutely petty and trivial like a mouth or a triangular sign on a face[true story; CenterLeft has a yield sign for a face and people have repeatedly likened him to Pyramidhead]. How is an artist or any other creative individual supposed to feel when this is the kind of feedback they're getting?


The last thing I really want to do is make people feel less inclined to comment as I love each and every bit of feedback I get- I know that no one means any sort of malicious intent with such comments, but it's also a huge disappointment to have your work amount to little more than a comparison.

Just some food for thought, really.




-Lux


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lupinemoonfeather Featured By Owner Oct 1, 2013  Professional General Artist
SO glad you said that! Its one of the most hurtful things someone can say, even though they are trying to be nice. I totally feel for you dude, for me, someone saying that basically translates as "your work is unoriginal and unimaginative".

Your work is absolutely stunning, I have personally never seen work like it before, such passion in it, I can almost feel it. x
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BanesShadow Featured By Owner Sep 28, 2013  Hobbyist Digital Artist
I am guilty of doing this but I second this opinion.
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Grypwolf Featured By Owner Sep 27, 2013  Professional Digital Artist
Hey. I have this exact same problem all the time and my friend made also good journal about it.
unikeko.deviantart.com/journal…
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darkDRAGONxxxxx Featured By Owner Sep 10, 2013  Student Traditional Artist
I honestly don't think your art reminds me of anything :( Your art is one of a kind, to me :)
I understand how you may possibly feel, most people would in this case. But your style and art topics alone are unique, and I'm glad I re-found you today! I had no idea you moved accounts. c:

But so far what I'm loving in your art in the sense of a really sweet story within the picture. They say pictures/drawings can tell so many stories, and in this case I think your art suits that tittle.

Honestly though, most people need to understand that making such comments in the first place is very disrespectful, and they should be mindful to the fact that anyone could take this offensively. But now that you stated this, hopefully they will read this and do you that favor.

I do hope to see more work from you soon though c: I love your art!
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inuzaka Featured By Owner Aug 28, 2013  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
Agreed *hugs* You're doing great man. Don't let it get to you too much.
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furryjake Featured By Owner Jul 24, 2013  Hobbyist Digital Artist
This reminds me of something I just read. Specifically, this journal entry.
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MechanicalCerberus Featured By Owner Jun 20, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
It is a shame that people make comparisons to such a degree where a compliment is lost (or they forget to put one in, explain, etc.). At the very least, they need to give some kind of rationale and still highlight the originality, effort, and general "coolness" of the piece they're commenting on.

Your art reminds me of your art, and it's awesome. The details, the style--it's very clear that you spend a lot of time on it. Just stumbled on your stuff today, actually, and you've definitely been added to my +Watch!
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M0rcry Featured By Owner Jun 15, 2013  Hobbyist Digital Artist
This is so true. I agree with everything you said.
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Capt-Topknot Featured By Owner Jun 14, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
Glad I learned this lesson early on.
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shawnthewolf12 Featured By Owner Jun 10, 2013
heh, is this related to seeing a picture in some kind of dotted fabric, or even looking at the carpet, and seeing a object or patteran? and that patteran being a face, or object, or something else you know? it happenes to me all the time. what is it called?
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fighter-jet Featured By Owner Jun 10, 2013
That would be called pareidolia; finding a pattern in randomness. They're very much related.
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shawnthewolf12 Featured By Owner Jun 11, 2013
i thought so. ill google it thx
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Vvlad-vVolfen Featured By Owner Jun 9, 2013  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Try applying this stamp to your profile and the works you suspect people will compare. I find it helps get this very point across. [link] :thumb152138531:

Wonderful art concepts by the way.
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TigerHawkmon Featured By Owner Jun 8, 2013
What really gets me about those kinds of comments is that they really are just one or two steps short of being legitimate quality questions. They just need to go on to figure out why it reminds them of whatever and then state what it means for the art in front of them. Then they can go back and edit out the "this reminds me of ___" part of the comment. So maybe the trick is to try to get those people to elaborate on their comments.


And I bet this is what makes the More Like This on deviation pages so annoying.
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Hi-biki Featured By Owner Jun 4, 2013  Hobbyist Digital Artist
I agree so much.
And like you said most of the time I don't even know the thing/character/game that the person commenting is referring to.
And you're right, it makes me a bit hesitant to to try and draw specific things, or when designing, add specific traits because I don't want people to just compare my stuff.

Also most of the time, they compare things that have extremely common traits.
I've had a few of my characters compared to people from various anime I've never heard of, and when I looked up the character the only thing they had in common was a similar hair color.
It's like comparing a general drawing of a robot to a Transformer or every anime drawing/design of a general ninja to Naruto.

However, I'm polite about it and I simply state that they don't look alike and if they do it's just a coincidence, or I ask why they think they look similar. :nod:
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spacerogue Featured By Owner Jun 5, 2013  Hobbyist Digital Artist
oh god ... I had that with my white haired character in some post apo-group, they started to dish out every damn white haired anime charecter they could find and trow it at me just to confirm their opinion that I ripped of several animes I hadn't even seen.
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fighter-jet Featured By Owner Jun 4, 2013
nnnngh, yes, all of this.
I think the common traits thing probably bothers me the most, because you're absolutely right; it IS just like saying any kind of robot is copying Transformers and that there's no way people can be creative with existing themes without automatically having taken inspiration from some major franchise.

I probably could/should start asking/stating that I don't see the similarities again- just figured that it tends to be a lot easier to just let it be. Hahahahahaha.
Who knows, there may just be a compliment in there- like I said to :devmarionminor:; the image could just evoke an emotional response that causes them to associate it with something that also gives them the same feeling and there's a hidden compliment in there just waiting to be expanded upon.
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Hi-biki Featured By Owner Jun 4, 2013  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Forgot to add that this would be for comments that just go "This reminds me of ________" and say nothing else.
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MerionMinor Featured By Owner Jun 4, 2013  Student General Artist
I agree! Sometimes I tell myself that people do that just to show off. I've seen a cool show/played a cool game, here, let me stick its title into every comment I write. Maybe, just maybe, that makes them feel elaborate, or whatever. Still, it's really obnoxious and degrading.

Then again, there's that one type of "This reminds me of..." comments that I love. When people say that your artwork brings back certain memories. I mean, since memories are closely related to feelings, it's lovely to hear that your art evokes them. Even simple "This reminds me of summer/Christmas/a stormy night" suggests some sort of emotional involvement, right? And that's what art is all about. <3
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fighter-jet Featured By Owner Jun 4, 2013
Yes!

Those comparisons are great! It's such a great feeling to know that your work can evoke an emotional response or memory.
And to build off of that, it helps a lot if someone explains /why/ something reminds them of something else- i.e. "Your character reminds me of Leon from Resident Evil; he has that same determined look in his eyes that I love." in which case they're associating your work with something they very much enjoy and it has a similar emotional response.
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MerionMinor Featured By Owner Jun 4, 2013  Student General Artist
Precisely!
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Carnie-Vorex Featured By Owner Jun 4, 2013
If I ever leave such comments I usually imply "You seen that movie too? That's cool!" It's about sharing associations and thinking alike, not to insult anyone, and it might lead to discussing that common experience.
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HarmonicSonic Featured By Owner Jun 4, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
I've done it on occasion, but I never let that be my entire comment. Usually it's just a sort of "oh, by the way" thing to go with the rest of what I'm saying, be it compliments, critique, etc. Possibly worded something like, "have you ever seen/heard of ______? Because I think I see a bit of inspiration from that."

I prefer to say it that way, because the way I see it, just because a piece is inspired by something else doesn't mean it's unoriginal or non-creative. In your case, you're an amazing artist regardless of whether or not your artwork reminds people of other things. I remember being wowed when a fellow deviant showed me your gallery. You draw airplanes and you actually know your way around a cockpit.

All that to say - don't let those comments get to you too much. I've noticed that the artists on DeviantART who get the most comments like that tend to be the best artists on the site. :D
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Rekalnus Featured By Owner Jun 4, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
Guilty as charged. I have dropped using "reminds" unless I also add something honest saying that the artist I'm commenting on has improved over the reminded comparison.

Sometimes I have to catch myself before putting one into a comment.

D/A really does need to allow us to edit or delete comments BTW, my biggest rant.
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fighter-jet Featured By Owner Jun 4, 2013
Man... We've been pushing for a comment editing feature for years now. And every time we've been told that it'd make moderation a lot harder because people would just edit their comments to not be inflammatory.

But like. Livejournal has had an edit feature for /years/ now and they seem to be doing pretty well on that front. They just make it so you can only edit your comment for a certain amount of time after posting or until someone replies to it.
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Rekalnus Featured By Owner Jun 4, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
SMF forums have modify feature.

Hmmm so the moderators would rather not have people use the choice to self-moderate....how odd-

I bet if D/A introduced the feature, it would be premium only ;-)
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cayleycom Featured By Owner Jun 4, 2013  Professional Digital Artist
yup. Had that done to me, and (shame) have unthinkingly done that to others.
I played a piece of music I wrote on guitar, and this girl said, "who's that?" I said it was mine.
she said "cause it sounds like so-and-so". As if I was just playing his music, and claiming it as my own. She didn't say anything else about the piece, that she liked or hated it, that it was good or sloppy.
It still bugs me today.
Bye the way, this journal of yours reminds me of so-and-so...
;-)
Can honestly say that when I have said that to artists, it it because I genuinely thought it was a good way to strike up conversation with them. not because I thought they were copying anything.
So, all in all, thank you for stating this for all of us. both as sympathetic encouragement and warning!!
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Kierach Featured By Owner Jun 4, 2013
This journal reminds me of Princess Mononke and Avatar.
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fighter-jet Featured By Owner Jun 4, 2013
WRONG.

It was actually inspired by a Pearl Harbor/Top Gun crossover fanfic I once read.
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Kierach Featured By Owner Jun 5, 2013
Sounds like either the best or the worst fanfic.
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AmorouxSkiLodge Featured By Owner Jun 3, 2013  Professional Photographer
Ive loved your art from the beginning which is truly unique in its own way.no one else can create wonderful drawings and ideas like you can I enjoy every bit of it!
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malfunctioninghero Featured By Owner Jun 3, 2013  Student General Artist
Mostly when it happens to me they say they are reminded of Jhonen Vasquez or Invader Zim, when usually I am doing fanart for it, but I understand where you're coming from. That's why I'm actually pretty afraid to post my OCs up unless they are doing something or shown in a way that makes them unique. That just goes for my OCs, my FCs, well, I don't have to worry to much cuz it's already a proclaimed copy at that point XDD
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SockHero Featured By Owner Jun 3, 2013  Professional General Artist
This is really one of the reasons I'm inclined less and less to post anything on devArt -- or anywhere really. I get these kinds of comments iin real life about my sculpture, and I quit sculpting because of it. It is even worse when people will say "you don't need to buy that (object) you can make one just like it". Or will buy me something and say "it looks like something you'd sculpt". Not only does it demean the person who created the original thing, but it paints me as a talentless hack, a copycat at best. So now most of my art sits and rots unseen by anyone but me. Maybe if I'd have said something sooner I wouldn't be like this, but I'm happier not having to hear inane comments, lol.
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RayfordSteele Featured By Owner Jun 3, 2013  Student General Artist
Oh my goodness I know exactly what you mean. I love to compose music, it's one of my many passions, and you could imagine the feedback one can get for making, excuse me, attempting to make something "original."
"Oh that sounds just like_____" "that reminds me of_____"

UGH! Ok I get it! I mean I know what they mean and all... most of the time there's no harm done at all but it still feels like they're basically saying "you copied so and so" or "this song" or "that song."

You know it's funny, I didn't think you would have this problem. Your artwork is very unique and original, at least in my eyes. I've always loved it (being a pilot myself) your attention to detail is incredible.
Oh well, I won't let this get in my way and I'm sure you won't either! ^_^
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cayleycom Featured By Owner Jun 4, 2013  Professional Digital Artist
ha! yes! I had this happen to me!
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RayfordSteele Featured By Owner Jun 4, 2013  Student General Artist
Not fun!
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Digimitsu Featured By Owner Jun 3, 2013  Hobbyist Digital Artist
I understand that totally and I really dislike it myself and especially, like you mentioned, when they just say "this reminds me of ___" and nothing else altogether. And yeah they can be really dumb sometimes. Anything with black hair = OMG L. Anything with silver hair = OMG SEPHIROTH. |:

You're not alone on this though haha. I know a lot of people who also dislikes such comments. I even made a poll about this a while back lawl: [link]
and also this poll might be of interest: [link]

Some people are weird though lawl. They'd say "oh i hate this kind of comment too" but they do it on my deviations anyway lmao. :shrug:
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TrollKhatt Featured By Owner Jun 3, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
I love your arts and werewolves :3
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Kieth-Wolfe Featured By Owner Jun 3, 2013  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
I do see your point of view, and I gotta agree.

first off, sorry if I've ever said such a thing and forgot to add in any compliments. I always want to compliment the artist for anything of interest, but sometimes I do forget (I am human, after all)

second, I hope others become more aware of this problem and aim to resolve it :)
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fighter-jet Featured By Owner Jun 3, 2013
We're all human. xD

Which is part of why I was a little hesitant about posting anything on this matter- there's no malice behind these comments and sometimes it just happens that we speak before really thinking about what we're saying[I can be pretty skilled at this myself, LOL].

But on the other hand, it's really, really unfair of me to let this stuff continue to bother me without pointing out that it is a botheration so that people[and myself to an extent] can work to avoid it. Just hope I'm not stepping on any toes here.
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Kieth-Wolfe Featured By Owner Jun 3, 2013  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
even though we are furry, we're human :dummy:

but don't worry about it, you posted with good intention and carried it out, in my point of view, reasonably and politely :)
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Schakalo Featured By Owner Jun 3, 2013  Student Digital Artist
I understand you there man, I get a lot of stuff saying my art looks like other members of DA, I remember someone badgering me for a cheaper commission because they wanted someone who's art looked like another's. it was probably meant to be a comment but I found it an outright insult. I get you man
Did you saying anything to the people that compare and contrast your work In a negative light? Or simply ignore? Anyhow I hope this gets cleared up and I hope people read this and stop being lazy assholes and just give a damn compliment or at least a form of constructive criticism ;a;
<3
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fighter-jet Featured By Owner Jun 3, 2013
Ohhhhh man... Wow.
Yeah, that's not a compliment at all! I haven't ever had someone pull that one with me, but I HAVE had people outright say that they're watching me because my art reminds me of another artist who no longer posts online- it's not a very good feeling at all. Dx

The thing about saying anything is that these kinds of comparisons aren't ever really meant to be insulting or negative; people are just drawing conclusions without realizing the implications of what they're saying. I mean. How many times have we sat down, watched something and thought "This reminds me of ____"? I don't think a lot of people realize that instead of making a personal observation, that they're directing their comments to the creator themselves. Usually I just thank people if there's more to the comment or just ignore it if it's a flat out comparison- it's hard for me because I just don't like hurting people and making them feel unwelcome.
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Schakalo Featured By Owner Jun 3, 2013  Student Digital Artist
Yeah, I was just like wow end of deal sorry bye go away.
I completely see your point of view, ill be civil to people if they are civil to me, basically I treat them almost exactly the same as they treat me, ill probably note you in the morning with more details on this cuz it's like 2am here and I'm in my bed on my phone ugh typing so slow,
But yeah I can say I've deffinitley compared something to another, I suppose I would veiw the situation as you wouldn't go to jk Rowling and say "this reminds me of lotr" and walk away.
People's feelings man, gotta be gentle oh man I get nervous when I have to tell someone to back off, I feel like they're either going to cry or insult me (which pretty much kills me inside ugu)
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